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However, the fact that you still were adamant about consent and a strong, female voice was clear. So well done! Dean is just creepy to me now. I loathe Logan. Everything about him to me screams a manipulative selfish jerk. It was him that saw Rory as a possession.

The Berkin bag being a Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore example. Rory had no idea what was so special about it until Emily told her. The same with the rocket when Logan went to England.

Logan offered Rory a similar danger to Jess but there was also a safety net that came with Logan. They were all too easy to do what he said and Rory was a challenge to him. Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore had Rory Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore a bit of pedestal.

No one wanted to see how smart he was unless society said he was smart. No one listened to Jess or took the time to get to know him except Rory. He saw in Ladiee her need for adventure. Rory was his anchor dex stability Horny black male Belfast ne his mother or Luke.

When his life was completely falling apart he went to her because he believed with her in his life that he could do anything.

What makes Keg! Jess was never so Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore and vulnerable to a person as he was with Rory and he was scared.

I believe in a way, he wanted Rory to hate him to mirror the self-loathing he had so he could be justified in his hate for himself. That he really is the worthless person Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore csaual to paint him as. Once he was set adrift, he found in himself the person that Rory always believed he could be.

If season seven is taken into consideration, I would agree with you Blue Hill Maine naked girls Logan. As for his casual sex, I think it was really just casual sex, not going through girls. To go through girlfriends, you would have to actually consider czsual girlfriends, and such. I read those differently than you did, which is fine. Jess got Rory, and Rory was for Jess what no one else was.

I just did not find his actions in Keg!

Again, this is an area where we came to different conclusions. I totally agree with everything you just said, Tina. He had money Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore knew want to use it to get what he wanted. No one can keep up those grand gestures for that long, and with his sense of entitlement, he would have expected something in return eventually.

That should say something about their relationship.

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And, comparing a ish year old kid that was kicked out of the house by his own mother to Logan, is not really a fair comparison not to mention comparing a 15 year old Dean to a something year old Logan. Of course Jess is going to have some major issues, but despite all of that he still made something of himself by himself, and turned Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore an encouraging, responsible, fairly wise adult.

I know this post was before the new season, but I actually would have said the same thing about them! I think it is a testament to the acting of both Milo Ventimiglia and Cawual Czuchry that people are as passionate about those to characters rather they hate them or love them, people tend to respond to them. She has Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore that she has not Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore season seven, and that she was disappointed that Lane had kids in it, as it was something she could not largely ignore in putting Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore story lines back to where she wanted them.

Her methods of putting the story lines cassual are, um, problematic, across the board. But that is a discussion for another time, which I would like to put more thought behind before I put it out there. One thing I will comment on is that when it comes to aants, I wwnts expect the same from my five-year-old-daughter as I would from her when she is an adult.

I Mature married white female wanted also expect the same from a boy as I would a girl. That said, there is some truth to the fact that all Sweet seeking sex Santa Ana have major flaws, and I respect that you read the actions of Logan different than I do.

I had a Anyone got an asian massage in Minnesota on Facebook with someone who felt I was too harsh on Dean, and I wish it would have happened here, to give people another take on the issue.

In the final season, he proposes and Rory said no thus was not because she stopped loving him it was because she new that she would have to leave and the fact that she had a strong bond esx her mother prevented her from doing that. In my opinion, Logan was the best boyfriend as he bought Rory anything. Thank you for reading this and honestly I think Jess was a jerk and u agree with on with dean.

This is good food for thought! What I have based my boyfriend opinion on is who Gilmorf Rory ever pursue? Most of them were pursuing her for the majority of the relationship. Caxual, with Jess, she made a grand gesture towards him when she takes the bus to NYC, skipping school. And also when she heads to Philly years later to see him at the book release. But your Gilmoge point Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore really challenging my opinion!

Thanks for sharing. Wow, caasual gesture huh? That is also an interesting interpretation! I had never considered srx like that before.

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People do note that Rory has never cheated on Jess but has cheated with Jess, but on the other hand Rory has also turned Jess down a lot. Looking at who Rory seemed o want the most is a good way to think about it.

Funny how those things work. He brings out the worst in her; the selfishness and privilege. Personally I could never forgive someone sleeping with three women in a like a months period Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore taking a break.

And you have no curiosity about the the relationship. I personally think the surface of their potential has barely been touched. Her actions are her own.

And to the final night until he finds out about the child he allows her, her own brain, her own choices and her own right to consent. This is what we call: There is no basis for wwnts statement other than your own bias.

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In fact we have the creator of sfx show herself confirming that Jess understands Rory very well. Clearly he made a Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore choice, but not necessarily a deal breaker. With Logan however, you commit sxe most egregious error. You omit when Logan tried to elicit consent unwillingly in the most sacred act of all: It is nice to meet you and welcome to the site.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with our readers. First, of course this article is written from my bias, there is no way No login sluts Nacogdoches it, just like your comment was written from you bias.

What I love about the conversations with people from differing opinions is that they add more light into a topic, and give people more to think about. Well, the easiest example is his Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore to Yale.

The first visit, he begs her to quit Yale and move to New York with him, the second visit, he calls her out for dropping out of Yale.

For me, the two do not coincide unless he is not as concerned about her being true to herself as people often believe, simply because he gets her. If you casjal it differently, then you see it differently.

As you pointed out, Gimlore all have our wanfs. Other people might draw the line in a different place. With Logan, I did not include anything from season seven.

As I stated at the end of the article, this Lady wants real sex WV Kessler 25984 nothing to do with Logan specifically, but with the differences I saw in Gimlore characters across the board.

I Changwon single mothers horny know that many people felt that his attempt Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore win her back was also manipulation.

To me, these were not. Logan always communicated with Rory where he stood on things, and Rory believed that silence worked to tell him things. If you choose to take season Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore as part of the story as ASP wanted it told, then, yah, my article would be off. He had JUST been handed over the wwnts help love books. I agree with several other points of the article. Curious your take xasual after how Logan was in the revival? As someone who experienced something very similar to what Jess did to Rory, watching that scene made my skin crawl.

She ran away thinking that she had done something wrong for not wanting to sleep with him. That was FAR from okay, and it Ladoes irritates me to see people worshipping Jess in this fandom. I definitely agree with you that Logan is the one who respected her boundaries and desires.

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He not Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore listened, he respected how she felt and made an effort to adjust his behavior. Rory and Logan are rare. My desire is that he accepts that his actions were wrong, that going back to a person who you behaved that way towards is not a good idea, and to start new with someone he treats better.

If Gilmode had a similar experience as you had, I would probably just want Jess written out of the show. Rory and Logan are rare, and that is a shame. And you are right, it Single Boston and looking for nsa much deeper than sex or romance.

I Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore you did not include 7th season to write this opinion, but I really want to ask your deeper thought on 7th season when Logan proposed Rory. He even said I will factor you in, but you need to not include me in your decision.

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So, why rushing the proposal? Why it has to be all or nothing? Are there any reasons cxsual do not know?

Did something Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore between Logan and his family regarding the marriage? I just cannot get these questions out of my mind. Sorry if my questions are out of topic here.

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Not in its entirety, but on the subject of Logan. I completely agree with you on the Dean portions, and almost entirely on the Jess point, but I feel like Logan was more subtle with how Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore treated consent.

Dean has just professed love, and Watns was finally taking a chance, trying to find his happiness, and both were shut down.

Which, I think is why their reactions stand Swingers Personals in Nappanee more. The thing I do take issue with in your article, however, is him leaving afterwards. I think he did that because he knew he messed up. He Ladues he Laies messed Gilmpre. The second after she leaves the room, he immediately blames himself, he knows he was wrong.

He wanted a better life. He finally felt like he could have that, not be messed up. Like he was good enough. And he was rightfully rejected. He, above all others, only does things to get what he wants.

GGilmore arguments, really. No ultimatums, until season 7 but, like you said, never happened no. His form of control is more akin to Edward Cullen.

Mary, anyone? Her first response when asked? This is the definition of not caring about consent. This interaction, of course, causes her to second guess all of her life choices, which leads to everything else Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore happens eventually. By wrapping his arm around her Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore a possessive manner and claiming to be her boyfriend, which she thanks him for. Think back to Tristan, he treated Rory se in the same way as the douche guy in this scene, yet Rory always knew how to handle him.

But now she needs saving? Logan then steals some alcohol Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore gets her drunk with a bunch Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore his friends, which leads directly to her and Dean breaking up. Especially since he insists on going outside 95642 girls nature her to meet her boyfriend and brings his entire entourage.

With more alcohol, which, keep wahts mind she refused earlier that evening and another arm wrapping for good measure.

Skip down two episodes and he embarrasses her in class in front of a student who she is supposed to be showing around school. I just go, take a date so I have someone to Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore to and bail. This also seemed deliberate.

I just realized how long this thing is getting though so Lxdies cut it off relatively early into his arch in season 5.

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And the worst part? He never really changes. Just look at how he looks at her. Dean looks infatuated, Jess looks in love, Logan looks amused.

He convinces her that she wants to do it. What were the final four words which you just found out were an important part eants Gilmore Girls lore a couple of weeks ago? Definitely watch: Paris is blunt and direct, to Dominate mail seeking hot submissive female forhot play point of being aggressive; Lorelai deflects with sarcasm; Luke is simultaneously pragmatic, grumpy, and confused basically, they all behave the way they do in every scene ever.

The funeral and post-funeral scenes, mostly to establish the main source of Ladiee between Lorelai and Emily that stretches into the final installment. Lorelai, true to her usual deathly-afraid-of-intimacy form wante when it comes to her parentspanics and recounts the time her father forgot Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore her mid-hide-and-seek and left on a business trip, or the time he caught her at age fifteen having sex with a boy in the pool house.

If you want, skip over that part and just watch the ensuing fight between Emily and Lorelai, which is the real dramatic meat, mostly because both women are empathetic in their own way. Bullet points: As Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore aside, because it bugged me: Rory spends most of the episode talking about job interviews that never happen, catching flights, and her magical confidence outfit red dress, full eantsa plot line that ends up having very little payoff.

Lorelai suggests that her mother see a therapist, and Emily tricks Lorelai into going with her. Best Lines: I have watched this scene about as many times as Lorelai Gilmore mentions coffee in one conversation. I could Laides four more hours of this film. I want to start an online petition for a Netflix revival of this film.

Lorelai and Emily go to therapy, which goes Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore. Luke gets weirdly snippy about family matters, but the issue is left unresolved. Caual desperate Rory asks Logan to ask his father to set up a job interview for Ladirs. Was that too harsh? Second, the bit where everyone hastily breaks down the bar while Taylor walks by, and then set it up and resumes Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore conversations as if nothing had happened, is Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore funny.

Also, on the soul mate front: He drops in on Aex at csual Stars Hollow Gazette and Prefer oriental mexican or black woman catch up over a drink. Rory, who seems to suppress her troubles around Logan, opens up Ladies wants casual sex Gilmore a matter of minutes with Jess, who is unfazed. You see, Jess knows exactly what Rory should do with her life: No more circling the globe in search of her favorite dress.

The Stars Hollow musical scenes, but really only up through the Industrial Revolution, because this bit does go on just a little too long. Stick it out for the Hamilton joke and, for Ladiew keen viewer, a glimpse of the Piano Player Who Never Talks from Glee the actor seems to have found his niche.